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Batley Years - Article

Old photo of a pub front

The Victoria Hotel, Bradford Road,
Carlinghow, Batley.

Sunday Night at the Vic


The Victoria, Carlinghow was a very fine example of a Victorian Public House. It had several small rooms, a mosaic stone floor, tiled passageway, and the Landlord, Eddy Maloney, kept one of the finest pints of Tetley’s Ale in the area.

The Lyons Family, Jim, Peter, and his wife Kathy with Marion (McClune), Kathy’s mother, had many songs, some Irish and some from the old West Riding Music Hall days, Marion’s father having toured ‘the Halls’ in the early 1900s.

Kathy, Peter and Marion liked to sing when possible and to this end they were the main instigators of the Sunday night at “ The Vic “ in the early 1970s.

The ‘Snug’ was out of bounds to non singers on a Sunday Night and anyone who entered the room had either to perform a song or recitation.

The hard-core of regulars were Kathy and Peter Lyons, Marion and Peter McClune, Pam and Barry Wilson, Bob Woodhead, Michael and Jean Fisher, the George Jones, Michael Grogan and myself.
A veritable ragbag of songs were performed, popular songs of the 30s and 40s, Music Hall, Irish and Folk Songs all surfaced on a Sunday night. Since most of the clientele were Irish by extraction, Irish songs often tended to predominate.

Peter Lyons regularly sang ‘Mr, McAdam and Co’, ‘McCaffery’ and ‘Come back Paddy Reilly’.
Michael Grogan often sang ‘Hello Patsy Fagan’, ‘Mick Maguire’ and ‘Down by the Tanyard Side’.
Bob Woodhead would pipe up with ‘The Enniskillen Dragoons’ or the highly comical ‘Mick McGilligans Daughter Mary Ann’.

Most of the singers had their own favourite songs, which were often requested by the others present, One of Kathy Lyons favourite renditions was the old popular Music Hall Billy Bennett song, ‘She was Poor but she was Honest’ and she often gave a full rendition of ‘It's a Long Way to Tipperary’ .

Pam Wilson always sang ‘Barefoot Days’, her husband Barry ‘The Old House’ or ‘The Queen of Connemara’. Often together, Barry and I would sing ‘The Spaniard that Blighted my Life’, Barry having learnt it from his mother Annie, and me from my father Rowland.

Marion and Peter McClune frequently sang ‘Moonlight in Mayo’ as a duet, Peter being born and raised in Ireland and who like many Mayo expats before him moved to Batley seeking work, lodged at Marion’s and eventually finished up marrying her.

Marion had two party pieces, which were invariably performed at the end of the evening, when she would stand on the table, or long-saddle, and recite either, ‘The Green Eye of the Yellow God’ with the never to be forgotten opening lines:

There’s a one-eyed yellowed idol to the north of Khatmandu
There’s a little marble cross below the town,
There’s a broken hearted woman tends the grave of Mad Carew,
And the yellow god forever gazes down.’
Or Rudyard Kipling’s ‘Gunga Din’ with its immortal last line:
‘ You’re a better man than I am Gunga Din! ’

The sessions finished in the mid 1970s when the pub was refurbished and modernised. Some of the regulars moved round the corner to the Lord Nelson but the Sunday Night song session there never really took off, and fizzled out shortly afterwards.

The Songs

Dick Drummond's Grey Mare   From the singing of Marion McClune, (formerly Haley), who along with her daughter Kathy Lyons regularly performed it as a duet on the Sunday Night Sing at the Vic. Most of her songs were learnt as a girl from her father who performed on the West Riding Music Hall circuit.

Bill McClusky or The Stuttering Song  Peter Lyons regularly sang this song sang at the ‘Sunday Night at The Vic’ sessions. He told me he learnt it from Tommy Brazill who often performed it at ‘The Nash’, Batley Irish Democratic League Club, Monday Lunchtime ‘2 Bob on the Shamrock’ Sessions. The song is a variant of ‘You tell her - I stutter’ recorded in 1923, on the Edison Label, by the American Vaudeville singer Billy Murray.

When the Rhubub's Up - This little song is another regularly sung by Marion McClune.

Marion McClune's Music Hall Medley - I asked Marion about the Music Hall songs she had learned from her father, who had performed them on the West Riding Music Hall circuit. She sang me a real mixture of mainly snatches of songs covering a wide range of topics. As well as Marion's music hall songs I've included some history of the local Music Halls in my article Heavy Woollen District Music Hall Memories.

Tommy Trip's Medley

Oft on a Sunday night someone would request, ‘Tommy Trips Songs’, and Marion would start up ‘Take a Little Ramble’ and everyone would sing in unison the medley of three short songs. Thomas Thrippleton had since his schooldays always been known locally as ‘Tommy Trip’. He loved to sing but never attended the Sessions and I only met him a couple times on a Saturday Afternoon in the Vic. He was short in stature with a jovial disposition, when I asked why he never came to the evening sessions he told me his sister, who was his carer, had placed him on a curfew.

Painting of man leaning against a wall

Waiting for opening time - detail of painting by John D Wilson

Take a Little Ramble

Take a little ramble on a Sunday morn
It really is sublime
What funny folk you meet
At the corner of the street
All waiting for opening time
There's t'feller next door
And he's spinning threepenny bits
And he feels like he's neither lost nor won
On the corner there's a shop
Where they sell ginger pop
And it keeps that poor old woman on the run
On the clock he keeps his eye
Theres a public house close by
And as sure as that magic hour chimes
He's his nose on spot
Inside a pint pot
And he thanks the Lord for opening time.

Old photo of people waiting to board a ferry

Liverpool to Dublin Ferry

I comes from Liverpool

I comes from Liverpool
From Liverpool, from Liverpool
I comes from Liverpool
And as sure as my names Dan
If my father and my mother
Hadn't missed the boat to Dublin
I might have been an Irish man.

Liverpool is traditionally known for having the largest Irish heritage of all the British cities. This originates from the closeness of the Port of Liverpool to Dublin. It is now estimated that approx. 50% of Liverpool’s population is of some Irish extraction. The first influx started after the Irish rebellion of 1798, but by far the greater mass influx was in the Irish Potato Famine years 1839-1845. An estimated 1.5 million Irish crossed the Irish Sea to Liverpool, three quarters of them then boarded ships bound for America.

The City of Liverpool became so overcrowded that under The Poor Law Removal Act of 1847, 15 000 Irish immigrants were deported back to Ireland. There are many songs about Irish immigration, but probably not many like this rueful little ditty, about emigrating to Ireland.

Promotional poster for the territorial army

Since Poor Father Went and Joined the Territorials

Since poor Father went and joined the territorials
Ours is a happy little home
He gets us out of bed In the middle of the night
And sez that we must go out and fight
He puts poor mother in the dustbin
To keep on sentry guard
And there’s me and Brother John
With our little night shirts on
Marching round the old back yard.

The Territorial Army was formed in 1908 as an active-duty volunteer reserve force of the British Army.
This is the chorus of a three verse original song written shortly after ‘The Territorials' were created.
The song was first recorded in 1909 by the Australian born singer and comedian Billy Williams on a single-sided disc. It was re-issued in 1927 after Williams death on a double-sided record, his ‘other hit’, ‘When Father painted the Parlour’ on the B – side.

Boer War Songs

 Another of Tommy Trip's songs that used to be sung regularly was ‘The Boers have got my Daddy’ . It was always followed with the poignant, ‘I want to go home’, two songs from the Boer War period. These were followed with, the chorus of ‘Wait till the sun shines Nellie’, and to finish off the medley, the popular World War 1 song ‘Good bye-ee, Goodbye-ee’.

The Boers Have Got My Daddy

The Boers have got my Daddy
My soldier Dad.
I don’t like to hear my Mammy sigh
I don’t like to see my Mammy cry
So I am going on a big ship To cross the raging main
I am going to fight the Boers l am
And bring my Daddy back again.

I Want to Go Home

I want to go home
I want to go home
The pom-poms and mausers, they whistle an roar
I don't want to go on the trek any more
I want to go over the sea
I don’t want the Boers to shoot me
Oh my, I don’t want to die
I just want to go home.

Memorial plaque

Memorial Plaque in Batley Town Hall

The Second Boer War began on 11th October 1899 in the south of Africa and lasted until 31st May 1902.
It was fought between the two Boer Republics, the South African Republic and the Republic of the Orange Free State, and the British Empire, which held lands in the area.

Britain only had a small, well-trained regular army. The War lasted three years and the British needed to enlist more recruits, so many British men volunteered.

Batley had its own detachment of volunteers, The Batley Detachment 1st Volunteer Battalion Kings Own Yorkshire Light Infantry. Inside Batley Town Hall on the left hand wall of the main entrance, there is a plaque listing the names and rank of the Batley men who served in the South Africa War.

Front and back view of a medal

Batley Boer War Tribute Medal

On their return they were entertained to dinner at the Town Hall, and were afterwards presented with gold medals as a memento of their services at the front.

The front of the medal was embossed with the coat of arms of the Borough of Batley, West Yorkshire, and the reverse was inscribed:
"Borough of Batley, Presented to, rank and name of recipient, Batley Detachment 1st Vol Batt. K.O.Y.L.I., on his return from active service in South Africa June 1902".

About Mick

Mick Haywood is a traditional folk singer & folk song collector who has run and organised folk clubs and festivals for many years. He now lives in Whitby, North Yorkshire.